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By res0 , Section Wishlist [] Posted on Tue Jan 09, 2001 at 12:00:00 PM PST

I really appreciated rusty's addition of the open ratings for comments... but unfortunately it still does not eliminate people from going back to old comments and rating them all down, causing people to lose their trusted status, worldwide massacre, and thermonuclear warfare between supposedly allied nations under strict peace treaties. Okay, so I exaggerated. But I'll get to my point. I came up with a few things I think might be nice to have for the ratings system.

Putting timestamps on ratings would allow one to see not only who rated their comment but when... that way you can see in effect how quickly people read and reacted to your comment. Sometimes I will see a rating that is obviously not deserved; I'm thinking knee-jerk reactions and I imagine that they come rather quickly after the comment has been posted. All in all, I see very little disadvantage to adding a timestamp to each rating, and it would not be very difficult to implement at all :).

Also, although this will be a little more difficult to code, I think that a "Comments You've Rated" thing might be interesting, if not useful for something that I cannot think of at the moment. And maybe this would only be enabled for trusted users... and they could search for comments rated by other people... interesting? If someone is rating comments incorrectly, you could see what kind of damage they've done :)

Ahh, maybe I'm just blowing smoke. But I think these might be some nice things to add to the code. Tell me what you think.

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What word would best describe res0?

· Insane 0%

· Basketcase 20%

· Silly 60%

· Stupid 0%

· Rusty (as in, not in good condition ;) 0%

· Inoshiro (as in, the person) 20%

Votes: 5
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Well, I was looking through the Hidden Comments... (5.00 / 2) (#1)
by Captain_Tenille on Tue Jan 09, 2001 at 07:30:37 PM PST

... and it occured to me that maybe there should be a feature that certain users who troll enough (with goatse.cx links, penis birds, etc.) but not enough to have their accounts deleted should be put on "probation", where they can still post, but not be able to rate comments.

I realize that it may smack of /. moderation, but scoop will already let you delete users and comments, so some sort of probation for accounts that rate unfairly, troll in the bad way, or whatever may be an answer.

Just my 2 pesos.

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I've raised this subject before (4.00 / 1) (#2)
by cbatt on Tue Jan 09, 2001 at 07:50:23 PM PST

but on k5 itself and not here, where I should've, so it got smacked down quite quickly.

However, I don't think that there is any reason to timestamp the ratings. It serves no real purpose beyond weeding out who the kneejerks are, and even then, some people can read very quickly. Furthermore, it dosn't weed out the kneejerks who happen to read the thread long after you've made your remarks.

"Comments you've rated" would be an interesting feature on a mature, closed site. But in a public forum, all you are providing is ammunition for flame wars.

What I would rather see is a simpler +1/-1 system similar to the submission que. Either that, or some sort of weighted average mechanism that considers the number of users that voted on a comment in relation to the score. This is to prevent new comments, or comments that don't generate very many ratings, to be popped to the front of the que in front of comments rated by many. This would make comments earn their way to the top.

For instance:
right now, if a fresh comment is posted to the thread, all it takes is a single vote of +5 to send it straight to the top of the stack. So you set up 2 accounts and open them both in seperate browsers. One for the comment, one for the vote. Post with one. Refresh the other mod yourself up to 5. Now everyone gets to see your comments. Heck, create multiple accounts and then mod yourself a few time with 5s. Now you'll almost never drop below a high 3 or 4 unless you're deliberately trolling for 0s.

Which top? by itsbruce, 01/21/2001 10:14:05 AM PST (none / 0)

If this were implemented (none / 0) (#3)
by itsbruce on Sun Jan 21, 2001 at 10:06:41 AM PST

I think it really should be restricted to trusted users. I'm all for transparency of information but you also have to remember that, for any technology, people tend to do whatever the technology makes easy (and not what it makes difficult). "Your ratings" and "User X's ratings" would make ratings wars easy. As things stand, the information is available but you have to put in some effort to collate it. And one thing trolls don't do is exert themselves.

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