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Revision history for submissions in the story que Feature Requests
By cbatt , Section Wishlist []
Posted on Fri Jan 05, 2001 at 12:00:00 PM PST
I think it would be of great benefit to Scoop to allow story submitters to be able to edit their stories after submission. Unfortunately, this raises the issue of sumitters changing their story at the last second into something that the users did not vote on.

What I propose would be to include a mechanism that presented a list of links to historically archived versions of the submission along with a message that would appear at the top of the document indicating if and when the last revision occured. The ability to add meta-data about the revision would also be a nice addition so that the links could say the time/date and general reason for the update.

I had heard on a k5 thread that there was a mechanism being considered that would allow revisions only if the submission had less than 75% of the required publishing thresh-hold. I'd like to say that I believe that would be a great compliment to a system such as this one.

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A submission revision history is...
· a good idea 80%
· a bad idea 20%
· unnecessary because the author can just re-submit the story 0%

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Revision history for submissions in the story que | 7 comments (7 topical, 0 hidden)
revisions (2.00 / 1) (#1)
by Defect on Fri Jan 05, 2001 at 10:39:48 PM PST

supporting revisions, etc, is far too complicated (not in terms of code) for it to work. I think the only way you can go about this and mantain a slight level of sanity is to just allow authors to remove stories from the queue, regardless of score. That way they can remove it, edit it, and then resubmit it.



Revision (4.50 / 2) (#2)
by Wreck on Sat Jan 06, 2001 at 12:35:47 AM PST

To counteract the ability to edit submitted stories right before posting, couldn't you
Change the votes a story has to 50% of the current value?
Users will get a "* Choose Stories (2 new; 1 revised)" if they have already read the story and voted on it.
Authors will know that their votes will be decrease and be able to determine themselves whether or not it's worth changing it. This way, it's relatively harmless for them to change the story soon after submitting it, but changing it long after can have an adverse effect.

Am I talking total bullshit or does this make sense? (Keep in mind that 50% was a spur of the moment guess.)



The Answer (4.33 / 3) (#3)
by rusty on Sat Jan 06, 2001 at 02:31:19 AM PST

This has been chewed on for nearly a year now. The only answer I like so far is, add a revision queue. Basically, author writes story. Author *may* immediately submit for voting. This is not encouraged, though-- instead, people will be urged to submit their story to the "edit queue". While it's there, any reader can make editorial comments, and the author can edit any time they want, as often as they like. Readers can also register a thumbs up or thumbs down, purely informational, to say whether they think it ought to be submitted or not.

So, the author gives it some time, revises if necessary, and has a chance to guage reactions. Eventually, they decide it's done, and they hit "promote", and the story goes to voting. At this point, all the editorial comments are wiped out, and the story is up for voting. It can no longer be edited, but the author can cancel it from the queue if they want to.

This means that we don't have to track revision history, and voting stays simply voting. I think editing and voting should have been different from the beginning, and that this would be a move in the right direction. I may also add a "send back to editing" vote that would let people register that opinion. Not sure how that will factor in to the post/dump algorithm though.

My plan, right now, is to add this roughly as described above. I guess if anyone has either a major objection or a better idea, now's the time. :-)



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