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Addressing the Trusted Mojo Issue Feature Requests
By General_Corto , Section Wishlist []
Posted on Mon Jan 22, 2001 at 12:00:00 PM PST
I've seen a couple of articles in the archive that address the problem of fluctuating trusted-untrusted state, and yet I haven't seen a good solution being offered. Here's my idea: Schmitt Triggers.

A Schmitt Trigger is a simple construction in electronics which removes the hairtrigger manner in which a switch would normally operate (in an analogue world).

In essence, once the voltage being applied to the switch reaches a certain level, let's call it x to be geeky, the switch is activated. However, the voltage to switch it off again isn't x, but x - n, meaning that you don't end up in a situation where the state fluctuates randomly. Should the level decrease to x - n, then the switch is deactivated, and the level needs to go back up to x to reactivate.

Simple to implement? Probably. Choose your two trigger levels of Mojo, and keep state in the database for whether or not a user is currently trusted. If they are, so long as their Mojo level does not go below the lower level, they're trusted.
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mojo fluctuations (4.00 / 1) (#1)
by Defect on Mon Jan 22, 2001 at 09:53:29 PM PST

It sounds nice, but if you think about it, does it really matter? If a user gets trusted for 12 minutes, then gets untrusted again because someone else rated one of his/her comments a 3, then untrusted is truly where that user belongs now, there're no if's and's or but's about it. Trusted user status (if i understand correctly) is supposed to fluctuate in and out of view for a user (though i understand what you mean, as in fluctuating rapidly in short periods of time). It's not supposed to be something you gain once and then never have to worry about losing it.

I think it's pretty reasonable to have times where TU status goes back and forth quickly, it may seem annoying at first, but i don't think that's reason enough to change it. If anything (rather than fooling with thresholds), TUS (trusted user status) could be calculated without regard to the current days comments, thus giving them time to settle down before it counts the ratings towards mojo. I just think that cushioning the cutoff threshold is just babying the user, preventing them from being exposed to the raw truth that is <fanfare>   Trusted User Status   </fanfare> :)



Why worry? (4.00 / 1) (#3)
by itsbruce on Tue Jan 23, 2001 at 06:42:58 PM PST

When I first joined k5, I became a trusted user after a couple of days. Then I lost it. Deserved it, too. Shouldn't have made the bitchy comments.

Then I found I'd be trusted for a few days, lose it for a week and so on. Not because of wisecracks, just because I'd find a lot of people disagreeing strongly with what I'd said or how I'd said it.

After a few weeks I just stopped bothering. So it would be "Oh, look, I'm trusted! Which comments did that?" but not "Great, I'm trusted!" or "Damn, I've lost it!". The discussions regained primacy.

It's good that people can lose their status quickly. Teaches them not to get hung up on it.

The best thing about the mojo rules is that they are transparent and simple. This is very important. A couple of months after I joined Slashdot I had a karma of 13. But I'd never found myself reviewing comments, didn't know if 13 was good or bad, didn't know how close I was to the magic number. Maybe I was never close - the rules are not explained and are weighted according to some secret "approved" model of behaviour over and above the ratings given by your peers.

I disagree with your proposal because the rules should be a simple as possible. And for the reasons given above. But mostly for the simple reason.





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