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By rusty , Section Project []
Posted on Fri Apr 11, 2003 at 12:00:00 PM PST
Scoop development has been very quiet lately. I don't know whether no one is working on anything, or whether there are things going on that aren't being talked about much, or who even still considers themself an active Scoop developer.

So in an effort to figure out what the state of Scoop development is right now, I'm cross-posting this to the two scoop lists and scoop.k5. If you're working on anything related to Scoop, or not currently working on anything but interested in helping, please respond! I will post the results to these same places, and hopefully we can restart development work.

Please email answers to the following to rusty@kuro5hin.org.

  1. Who are you?
  2. Are you working on Scoop right now? If so, what are you doing?
  3. Have you done some work recently but had to set it aside for some reason? If so, would you be willing to turn over whatveer you've got to someone else, if someone wants to complete it?
  4. Are you minimally proficient in perl and have some free time? Would you be willing to take over someone's unfinished project?

I think that about covers it. Hopefully we can coordinate and get things moving again, or at least make everyone aware of what's being done.

Thanks!

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After giving it a little thought (none / 0) (#1)
by coryking on Tue Apr 15, 2003 at 12:24:13 PM PST

I think one of the reasons is because kuro5hin, the largest scoop site, is becoming less and less technical. As a result, the technical people who have no interest in Iraq are moving on to other websites. This gets replaced with non-techies who dont know, or care, about working on scoop.

I'm not saying that k5 becoming political is bad, but what you are seeing is a side effect of the migration.

--
Cory R. King
xlan.org (scoop hosting)
photographica (pictures)



Hmm, let's think. What's changed recently? (none / 0) (#2)
by RobotSlave on Tue May 06, 2003 at 12:26:48 PM PST

OK, yeah, I know the CMF trolling schtick is beyond stale by now, and you're sick of hearing about it, but d'you suppose it's possible that potential developers have a slightly different attitude toward scoop, now that they know that K5, inc. is making a small profit, and that you're paying yourself a full-time salary to work on K5?

If there's a little bit of change rattling around in the bottom of the jar these days, then why not throw a coin or two out to the programmers who have made substantial contributions to scoop?

Or if you've got specific features you want added, then why not offer rewards for them? I'm not suggesting you pay full contract rates, but wouldn't $50 or $100 here and there send a signal that when you work on Scoop, you're not just whitewashing Rusty Sawyer's picket fence?

I've got some pretty hairy perl experience, and a fair bit of free time. What I lack, you see, is motivation. Incentive. Y'know, the ol' get up 'n go.



Missing the point (none / 0) (#3)
by wisenomad on Sun May 11, 2003 at 10:56:58 AM PST

I say who cares if Rusty is able to quit his day job because he's making a little money from this thing? That just means there will be someone with more time to help this open source project along.

I'm not a developer, by any means, but I do know a bit about community websites, and I think this Scoop thing is one of the coolest applications I've seen in a long time. I think time will tell that the people who have created this (all of you who have pitched in), have created something quite special, and revolutionary.

So Rusty makes a few bucks, all of you that pitched in along the way can say you were part of the revolution. That'll be much more valuable to your self-worth when you're 90 and reflecting on what you've added to the world in your life. More valuable than a few bucks here and there. Not that a few bucks here and there wouldn't help things along.

If and when I get my Scoop site up and running (a child of WiseNomad.com), I'll know more of what I'd like to see developed and kick in some coin, at least what I can.

-Stephan



Status update? (none / 0) (#4)
by Vladinator on Tue May 13, 2003 at 10:40:34 AM PST

It's been a month since you posted this.  Where's the results?

"Even Marylin Monroe was a man, but this tends to get overlooked by our motherfixated overweight sexist media." -- Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians


State o' Scoop (none / 0) (#5)
by sethadam1 on Mon May 19, 2003 at 12:40:00 PM PST

I am a PHP developer, but I've begun teaching myself Perl to accomplish some non-web tasks.  I've been thinking of taking some of my Perl goods to the web when I feel a little more stable.  I've written a blog tool in PHP, but I've written it by myself and I'd like to participate in something existing when I make the jump to Perl.  I don't have the energy to start from scratch again.

At some point, I'll get around to reading Scoop, at which point I'd definitely be interested in contributing.  

I wonder how many other people WOULD contribute, but don't.  

--
Adam Scheinberg
http://flipsource.org



localization (3.00 / 1) (#9)
by marcooo on Sun May 25, 2003 at 09:30:22 AM PST

Hi,

>  Who are you?
My name is Marco :)

> Are you working on Scoop right now? If so,
> what are you doing?

I'm trying to add multi language support.
(Italian, at the moment)

> Have you done some work recently but had to set
> it aside for some reason? If so, would you be
> willing to turn over whatveer you've got to
> someone else, if someone wants to complete it?

I never worked for scoop.

> Are you minimally proficient in perl and have
> some free time? Would you be willing to take
> over someone's unfinished project?

I would like continue to work on the scoop localization.    

I try to describe my solution:    

I have added 3 new VARS:  
 default_lang = default language of the website.    
 enabled_lang = list of languages enabled from the admin.  
 language_list = list of the languages supported by scoop.    

I added a box (language_box) to each template that show the list of the enabled languages (enabled_lang).

When you click on the language (italian, for example) you call a function box that reload the blocks's table for the chosen language and save the selected language in the session data (the names of the blocks tables is: blocks_it, blocks_en etc..).    

Now I'm trying to export all the "language" dependent values from the code to the blocks tables.  

In some cases it's possible to export whole chunk of html from the code to a blocks record, in some cases it's more simple to export only a word/words or a sentence.    

For this reason i've created two new category blocks: words and sentences.    

For the translation of the days of the week and Months I'm thinking that the best solution could be to translate this information with regex expression. Another solution could be to use perl library (like datetime).    

I would like to know what do you think about this.    

P.S.  Sorry for my bad bad bad english

P.P.S.
I like scoop :)




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