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"donating" your PC to scoop Feature Requests
By Iasson , Section Code []
Posted on Fri Mar 15, 2002 at 12:00:00 PM PST
Hello friends... I dont know if this has already been posted, if yes then dump it.. I am suggesting a "donate PC" option in order to solve the fake accounts problem ... At least the vote originated from the "donated" PC should count more than any other vote.

You may have noticed in the java plugin 1.4 the new security feature that allows a signed applet to grant full access priviledges to the machine it is run.
I am sugesting a similiar signed applet, originated from scoop site, that will somehow get all PC characteristics and mark the computer with a secret file. That way, every single computer will be able to vote only once, thus the fake accounts problem will be eliminated to the number of computers a real user has.

Problems:
if you grant permission to a signed applet, a malicious scoop operator could destroy you computer tottaly.
the solution to this may be to give to the applet less that full access priviledges, or implement an "All or nothing disclosure of secrets" (ANDOS) protocol in order to obtain the desired information of the remote client connected to scoop, without giving the information. I cannot explain this ANDOS protocol very well yet, but I think it worths searching in that direction for the ones who does not aggree with the donate PC option.

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interesting... (none / 0) (#2)
by hurstdog on Fri Mar 15, 2002 at 08:41:51 AM PST

But infeasable in my opinion. I don't think its worth the effort. In situations where we would need to ensure that each person only got one vote it would be very helpful. But in the case of stuff like kuro5hin, it doesn't make that big of a difference. I don't think the ends outweigh the means in this case.

It is a really neat idea though, smells kinda like winXP activation though :)



-hurstdog


What about public terminals etc...? (none / 0) (#7)
by n0nick on Wed Mar 20, 2002 at 02:51:44 PM PST





Identifying the machine (none / 0) (#8)
by Mysidia on Wed Mar 20, 2002 at 06:56:18 PM PST

While you might be able to identify the machine of every account with some sort of unique tag.. there's always the possibility of the user changing the hardware or removing whatever "identifier" a java applet puts up and checks for before creating an account.

The multiuser thing throws in another problem to this scheme, but I think this is trying to solve the wrong problem also.

A user may have access to more than one PCs to verify with [don't use the word donate that's misleading, it implies you're physically sending your PC somewhere.] Or more than one users might be forced to use the same PC.

The problem you really want to solve is to identify the user... to determine that one person is unique.. You need to collect uniquely-identifying information name, address, etc, and verify it as you would if you were a Digital Cert. authority

IOW, preventing multiple accounts while not hurting legitimate users trying to create one account is not this simple.





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